Review - A Stock 2 door Badlands in Moab

Lots O Fords
Apr 22, 2024

Rank IV

Apr 22, 2024

The vehicle: A stock 2 door badlands with sasquatch package, V6, Auto, Lux and capable bumper. While I have done cosmetics, I have not done any modifications to the chassis. Owned since December 23. I sought out the badlands because I wanted an out of the box capable vehicle for the Arizona desert.

The driver: Never been to Moab, and started 4 wheeling in 1975. My go to vehicle has always been my 1947 Jeep, carbureted, V8, lockers front and rear, 32 inch tires, and manual everything. Still learning the bronco.

The road trip: 700 miles one way. very comfortable. 21 mpg. Wind noise was definitely there and it was made worse by the stuff I had on the factory roof rack. The small fuel tank never was the concern I thought it would be.

Off road on the more difficult trails of Top of the World, Fin's N Things and Hells revenge. And, yes there are more difficult trails there. First off, These trails have lots of ledges and lots of traction. Some were so steep that the forward warning sensor would sound off as you approached and at times you just slid down, or as my spotter said, time to ski.

I used both lockers and the stay bar disconnect. Aired down to 20 PSI. Some places the 2 door had an advantage and some the 4 door had the advantage. Mostly when both the front and rear tires each meet a ledge at the same time.
I did hit the underside and the bash plates all got a new scratch. The worst hit was driver error when I let both front wheels drop of a ledge at the same time, that's a no no. Your supposed to do one corner at a time. That hit my cross member hard.
Traction and some amazing ledges were not a problem at all.
If I had any doubt of what I was about to climb, I engaged the rear locker, before it slipped. I only used the front a couple times.
The front camera. Because it is 2D, you can not use it to judge drop offs and such. However it works great to see where the trail goes when the huge hood blocks your view. So I never looked at it while doing top of the world, but I dam sure did on Fins and Hells.
The off road screen on the dash that shows if your locked also shows where your tires are turned and a reading that makes centering the wheel, when being spotted, super easy. I glanced at it frequently.
Stay bar disconnect got used a lot. even when on dirt roads going to the trail. You want a smoother ride, put it in 4 high and disconnect.
A problem I found was that when I was in 4L just as I came to a stop, the vehicle accelerated and I had to jab the brakes. I thought I was hitting the gas with my boot. Then I found that using 4L and manual gear selection, no problem. I also found that to maintain momentum and not pickup speed, 4L in M 1 or 2 gave good control (like my ol jeep). Some of the steep descents, the M1, really holds you back.
I hit the rear track bar points and the rear shock brackets. Scratched the bumper on all 4 corners and my wheel rings got some rash, all of which you need to be laying on the ground to see.
Do I want to add bigger tires or a lift? NO
Was I satisfied with its performance on these difficult trails? YES

You want to race over these trails, get a side x side. You want to do every trail no matter how extreme, build a rock buggy. Every thing in between stock and a rock buggy has a compromise. And pulling off the trail and using voice command to find Milts for a burger and shake, well, that's just plain nice.

I'm here to tell you, in stock form, this thing is amazing. I would hope that others with a stock vehicle would add to this post. On the trails with me was @SAVEUP with his 2 door badlands, non sasquatch, 4 cyl and standard transmission. We did all the same stuff.

SAVEUP, UserError

Rank V

Apr 22, 2024

#1
Goes to show all those expensive mods people do are rarely needed.
Darrel, Sven

I am of Scottish decent and I ride a Unicorn.

Apr 22, 2024

#2
The vehicle: A stock 2 door badlands with sasquatch package, V6, Auto, Lux and capable bumper. While I have done cosmetics, I have not done any modifications to the chassis. Owned since December 23. I sought out the badlands because I wanted an out of the box capable vehicle for the Arizona desert.

The driver: Never been to Moab, and started 4 wheeling in 1975. My go to vehicle has always been my 1947 Jeep, carbureted, V8, lockers front and rear, 32 inch tires, and manual everything. Still learning the bronco.

The road trip: 700 miles one way. very comfortable. 21 mpg. Wind noise was definitely there and it was made worse by the stuff I had on the factory roof rack. The small fuel tank never was the concern I thought it would be.

Off road on the more difficult trails of Top of the World, Fin's N Things and Hells revenge. And, yes there are more difficult trails there. First off, These trails have lots of ledges and lots of traction. Some were so steep that the forward warning sensor would sound off as you approached and at times you just slid down, or as my spotter said, time to ski.

I used both lockers and the stay bar disconnect. Aired down to 20 PSI. Some places the 2 door had an advantage and some the 4 door had the advantage. Mostly when both the front and rear tires each meet a ledge at the same time.
I did hit the underside and the bash plates all got a new scratch. The worst hit was driver error when I let both front wheels drop of a ledge at the same time, that's a no no. Your supposed to do one corner at a time. That hit my cross member hard.
Traction and some amazing ledges were not a problem at all.
If I had any doubt of what I was about to climb, I engaged the rear locker, before it slipped. I only used the front a couple times.
The front camera. Because it is 2D, you can not use it to judge drop offs and such. However it works great to see where the trail goes when the huge hood blocks your view. So I never looked at it while doing top of the world, but I dam sure did on Fins and Hells.
The off road screen on the dash that shows if your locked also shows where your tires are turned and a reading that makes centering the wheel, when being spotted, super easy. I glanced at it frequently.
Stay bar disconnect got used a lot. even when on dirt roads going to the trail. You want a smoother ride, put it in 4 high and disconnect.
A problem I found was that when I was in 4L just as I came to a stop, the vehicle accelerated and I had to jab the brakes. I thought I was hitting the gas with my boot. Then I found that using 4L and manual gear selection, no problem. I also found that to maintain momentum and not pickup speed, 4L in M 1 or 2 gave good control (like my ol jeep). Some of the steep descents, the M1, really holds you back.
I hit the rear track bar points and the rear shock brackets. Scratched the bumper on all 4 corners and my wheel rings got some rash, all of which you need to be laying on the ground to see.
Do I want to add bigger tires or a lift? NO
Was I satisfied with its performance on these difficult trails? YES

You want to race over these trails, get a side x side. You want to do every trail no matter how extreme, build a rock buggy. Every thing in between stock and a rock buggy has a compromise. And pulling off the trail and using voice command to find Milts for a burger and shake, well, that's just plain nice.

I'm here to tell you, in stock form, this thing is amazing. I would hope that others with a stock vehicle would add to this post. On the trails with me was @SAVEUP with his 2 door badlands, non sasquatch, 4 cyl and standard transmission. We did all the same stuff.

Awesome report.... Thank you! Sounds like the trip was a fantastic success! Been following all the pics.
Darrel, Adrenalin

I am of Scottish decent and I ride a Unicorn.

Apr 22, 2024

#3
Goes to show all those expensive mods people do are rarely needed.

You are right.... Not needed, but it is like getting the easy chair out as opposed to dining chair. Both work.

and to be honest I really like my dining room chairs... They are fricking comfortable... But they are not my Ekornes recliner either....
Jakob1972, UserError
Moderator

Looking for rocks!

Apr 23, 2024

#4
Goes to show all those expensive mods people do are rarely needed.

While not all the expensive mods are needed, the front camera on Fins and Things and Hells Revenge was a godsend. I'm sure if we all had more crawling experience, it wouldn't be needed but the ability to see the ground below you as you crest a hill made the camera worth twice as much as I paid for it.
2022 Bronco Badlands, 4D, Hot Pepper Red, 2.7, Squatch, Lux, and MIC.
7/13/2020 10:04pm reservation. Blend 6/16/2022 Delivered 6/26/2022.
Dealership - Stephen's Auto Center.
UserError, Darrel

Bailing forward!

Apr 23, 2024

#5
Did you take any bypasses on TotW? There were several obstacles that many Sasquatch drivers wouldn't take when I was there but I didn't find any of them particularly challenging in 35s. I still had a little minor scraping here and there as well.
Darrel, Unicorn

I am of Scottish decent and I ride a Unicorn.

Apr 23, 2024

#6
While not all the expensive mods are needed, the front camera on Fins and Things and Hells Revenge was a godsend. I'm sure if we all had more crawling experience, it wouldn't be needed but the ability to see the ground below you as you crest a hill made the camera worth twice as much as I paid for it.

To me Crawling experience before the camera means I would have taken at least twice as long... I would have to walk everything first no matter who my spotter was because I wanted to understand what they were telling me.
Darrel, Deano Bronc

Rank IV

Apr 23, 2024

#7
Did you take any bypasses on TotW? There were several obstacles that many Sasquatch drivers wouldn't take when I was there but I didn't find any of them particularly challenging in 35s. I still had a little minor scraping here and there as well.

We didn't take any bypass and we left the same way we came up.
UserError, Darrel

Rank 0

Apr 23, 2024

#8
I'm here to tell you, in stock form, this thing is amazing. I would hope that others with a stock vehicle would add to this post. On the trails with me was @SAVEUP with his 2 door badlands, non sasquatch, 4 cyl and standard transmission. We did all the same stuff.


Great write-up! I agree that these Broncos are highly capable right off the lot. More so than I probably gave them credit for. I do think rock sliders, and decent set of skid plates are a must though. I did notice my fuel tank skid plate (and rear recovery hooks) took a bit of a beating upon inspection when I got home from Moab.

Not much slick rock on the trails here in Wyoming, but some of the trails with medium sized boulders would worry me without some sort additional undercarriage protection.
2023 2-Door Hot Pepper Red Bronco Wildrtak: RCI Skid Plates and Rock Sliders, Manual Sway Bar Disconnects, ComeUp Winch, Morimoto Ditch Lights and Fog Lights
Darrel, PSUTE

Rank IV

Apr 23, 2024

#9
I need to give a shout out to @brnc_o_vrlndr who lead and spotted our group of Broncos on the Top of the world trail.
Him especially because he also guided me to the edge! Am I'm still here.
UserError, Darrel
Moderator

Looking for rocks!

Apr 23, 2024

#10
I need to give a shout out to @brnc_o_vrlndr who lead and spotted our group of Broncos on the Top of the world trail.
Him especially because he also guided me to the edge! Am I'm still here.

Letting you know that I dropped a few videos over on the BOR video dump of you on Fins and Things and Hells Revenge.
2022 Bronco Badlands, 4D, Hot Pepper Red, 2.7, Squatch, Lux, and MIC.
7/13/2020 10:04pm reservation. Blend 6/16/2022 Delivered 6/26/2022.
Dealership - Stephen's Auto Center.
Darrel, PSUTE

Rank 0

Apr 23, 2024

#11
Great write up @Lots O Fords ! It was great meeting you and riding with you Tues, Weds, and Thursday! Here is a pic of you going up a fin on Hells Revenge.

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UserError, Darrel
Moderator Staff member

Administrator

Apr 23, 2024

#12
Loved reading about the trip and what you thought of the Bronco on it, @Lots O Fords. I usually leave my instrument panel on Pitch & Roll, so that was a nice tidbit about using the Off-Road view to center your wheels. Your Bronco looks awesome out there, too. That's a great shot, @MIRunner!
2021 Oxford White 2-door non-Sas Mid package 2.7L/10-speed Badlands with MIC top
2021 Carbonized Gray 2-door Sas High package 2.7L/10-speed Badlands with MIC top
Keeping the Jeeps: stock '89 XJ and 3.5" lifted '00 XJ on 31s
UserError, Darrel

Rank IV

Apr 23, 2024

#13
Great write up @Lots O Fords ! It was great meeting you and riding with you Tues, Weds, and Thursday! Here is a pic of you going up a fin on Hells Revenge.

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Wow and thank you. Enjoyed wheeling with you too.
its like they say, the photos just do not do justice of the angles, sound and sometimes, pucker factor.
UserError, Darrel
Moderator

Rank VI

Apr 23, 2024

#14
I need to give a shout out to @brnc_o_vrlndr who lead and spotted our group of Broncos on the Top of the world trail.
Him especially because he also guided me to the edge! Am I'm still here.
My pleasure! It was a lot of fun. I totally agree that running in stock format is just fine. I started in Moab stock on the 33s and I never got stuck. Definitely used the skid plates more than I do now, but it was great. I have incrementally increased ground clearance and tire size only to take the slightly harder lines and taller ledges.
"Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt" - John Muir
"The mountains are calling, and I must go..." - John Muir
BN #0120
UserError, Darrel

Rank IV

Apr 23, 2024

#15
Letting you know that I dropped a few videos over on the BOR video dump of you on Fins and Things and Hells Revenge.

I just watched your in cab shot in hells gate. You got @MIRunner and your run up it. I saw it live and man is that an awesome video. @TechnicalDisaster was already thru and talking lift by then.
keeping with this tread, the three of you, what mods, if any, to tires, suspension over stock?
And the shout out to @broncosport4thewin guiding you all.
SAVEUP, Darrel

Rank 0

Apr 23, 2024

#16
I just watched your in cab shot in hells gate. You got @MIRunner and your run up it. I saw it live and man is that an awesome video. @TechnicalDisaster was already thru and talking lift by then.
keeping with this tread, the tree of you, what mods, if any, to tires, suspension over stock?
And the shout out to @broncosport4thewin guiding you all.
I have a 2 inch spacer lift to fit 35’s and have a little clearance on my Badlands non Sasquatch. Not planning on going to 37’s anytime soon. Like you said, it’s a very capable machine in stock build. Mine was just to match sas clearance. Yes shout out to @broncosport4thewin for spotting us up Hell’s Gate!
SAVEUP, Darrel

That's a terrible idea, when do we start?

Apr 23, 2024

#17
Great write-up! I agree that these Broncos are highly capable right off the lot. More so than I probably gave them credit for. I do think rock sliders, and decent set of skid plates are a must though. I did notice my fuel tank skid plate (and rear recovery hooks) took a bit of a beating upon inspection when I got home from Moab.

Not much slick rock on the trails here in Wyoming, but some of the trails with medium sized boulders would worry me without some sort additional undercarriage protection.

Same here, and I added a transmission skid plate that took a couple of hits as well as the cross members so I'm glad I added those.
4 Door BadSquatch | Soft-top | Velocity Blue | 2.7 Auto | Towing | Lux | Leather
Darrel, PSUTE

I want to go back!

Apr 24, 2024

#18
I had the same experience with my Bronco wanting to lurch forward here and there. I noticed it a lot more when I was bumper down in a ditch and immediately crossing over into a climb. It seemed like the stop at the bottom of the drop was tricking the transmission. I don’t recall that ever happening in other trails, but there is nothing I’ve been on like Hells Revenge or Fins and Things.

Also, I have videos of your rig that I will upload before the end of the week.
SAVEUP, Deano Bronc

That's a terrible idea, when do we start?

Apr 24, 2024

#19
I played with keeping it in Manual mode, specifically M1 or M2, and that seemed to work pretty well. Were you in Manual when that happened @TechnicalDisaster?
4 Door BadSquatch | Soft-top | Velocity Blue | 2.7 Auto | Towing | Lux | Leather
Deano Bronc, Darrel

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